So the government is going to define marriage now? Doesn’t it already define marriage? “God defines marriage’”. Where? Marriage has always been defined by government, as they made it legal and garnished it with rights and privileges. What’s happening in the States now is that they’re extending their own government-given rights and privileges to same-sex couples, too. This has nothing to do with God or religion at all.
Marriage is secular not necessarily religious, otherwise atheists shouldn’t be allowed to get married, sterile couple shouldn’t be allowed to get married because the scope of marriage is procreation and divorced people shouldn’t get married because they already broke the sanctity of marriage.
Marriage does not revolve around “a man and a woman’s” relationship. It should be a lifetime commitment between two people. If they’re straight, bi, black, white, WHATEVER…they are still just as in love as anyone else.
First off, in christianity being gay is considered a sin. If you dont agree with it, why does it offend you? I never said that “all gay people are going to die because they are living in sin”. I simply stated a fact, but if you take it as an offensive comment, that is your problem not mine. Someone stated that it was not a sin, so i replied to them letting them know that their statement is incorrect. I never used it in a bashful manner so do not take it that way.
two great halves of humanity?
how bout recognizing us as one humanity but I shouldn’t come to expect that from the conservativism against gay marriage… only their dissmissivness
It is your opinion that “god” determines what a sin is. That’s all it is: an opinion.
Opinions are like butts. Everybody has one, and most of them stink.
Ok, I did a search on that adoption story. It seems the Catholic Social Services of MA CHOSE not to provide adoption services anymore, because they don’t like the law. No one forced them to stop. They made the choice. Why would they want to deny children loving parents? Because of some stupid beliefs? They obviously don’t care very much about the children. They’d prefer that they have no parents, rather than having gay parents. They are bigots. But that was not a gay marriage law…
Right. The people and the laws of this nation can’t be concerned with what your god, or anyone else’s god thinks. We can’t make laws based on religious beliefs.
Even Miley Cyrus, a Christian, supports same-sex marriage. 16, and she’s more open-minded and more intelligent than so many of her elders. (Now if she would just stop singing…)
Throughout most of the 19th century, the minimum age of consent for sexual intercourse in most American states was 10 years. In Delaware it was only 7 years.
As late as 1930, 12 states allowed boys as young as 14 and girls as young as 12 to marry .
These examples, and there are many more, clearly document that marriage has not been an unchanging institution with unchanging definitions of who can marry and under what circumstances. Those who claim otherwise distort the historical record.
Until 1662, there was no penalty for interracial marriages in any of the British colonies in North America. In 1662, Virginia doubled the fine for fornication between interracial couples. In 1664, Maryland became the first colony to ban interracial marriages. By 1750, all southern colonies, plus Massachusetts and Pennsylvania outlawed interracial marriages.
Since when do they teach marriage in kindergarten? (or any grade, for that matter?) How was the law used to stop adoptions at Catholic Social Services?
What is this “bigger agenda” you speak of?
It has changed many, many times.
From the 5th to the 14th centuries, the Roman Catholic Church conducted special ceremonies to bless same-sex unions which were almost identical for those to bless heterosexual unions.
In the 16th century, servants and day laborers were not allowed to marry in Bavaria and Austria unless they had the permission of local political authorities.
Marriage was strictly a civil and not an ecclesiastical ceremony for the Puritans in Massachusetts Bay until 1686
Maybe you let your god do your thinking for you. I do my thinking for myself, and I say it is not a sin. Right, I don’t have to care what your god thinks, and neither does anyone else. So let’s not pass laws in an attempt to promote bigotry.
So you think for yourself – that makes it your opinion. God determines what sin is – no one else. You don’t have to care what God says – that’s up to you. Laws are determined by people. Laws legalize things that God considers wrong – divorce for instance. When Conneticut legalized SS marriage that only changed how the law views it – not how God views it.
if were just that simple – it wouldn’t be a problem. But one simple law has an unpredictable domino effect. The problem is what special interest groups jump in and do once SS marriage is legalized. Were parents in MA notified that legalizing SS marriage would allow it to be taught to their 5 year olds, or that the law would be used to stop adoptions at Catholic Social Services? No – they weren’t. The community behind passing these laws makes it sound so simple – but there’s a bigger agenda here
seriously, before you ppl respond to my comments, can you please look at the root of the argument. This has nothing to do with what i was saying. My goodness, i am getting tired of receiving irrelevant responses.
“Furthermore, sex with animals can never be consentual since an animal can’t give consent.” Yes, but in my example, I’m saying you homosexuals might strive to get animal/homsexual legislation passed. Never know……………
So the government is going to define marriage now? Doesn’t it already define marriage? “God defines marriage’”. Where? Marriage has always been defined by government, as they made it legal and garnished it with rights and privileges. What’s happening in the States now is that they’re extending their own government-given rights and privileges to same-sex couples, too. This has nothing to do with God or religion at all.
If Maggie wasn’t so completely and utterly full of shit, I might actually consider listening to her rambling.
You’re absolutely right! Lol
That would just make her happy, shes getting free pie. xD
Marriage is secular not necessarily religious, otherwise atheists shouldn’t be allowed to get married, sterile couple shouldn’t be allowed to get married because the scope of marriage is procreation and divorced people shouldn’t get married because they already broke the sanctity of marriage.
Marriage does not revolve around “a man and a woman’s” relationship. It should be a lifetime commitment between two people. If they’re straight, bi, black, white, WHATEVER…they are still just as in love as anyone else.
First off, in christianity being gay is considered a sin. If you dont agree with it, why does it offend you? I never said that “all gay people are going to die because they are living in sin”. I simply stated a fact, but if you take it as an offensive comment, that is your problem not mine. Someone stated that it was not a sin, so i replied to them letting them know that their statement is incorrect. I never used it in a bashful manner so do not take it that way.
“I never said anything to offend any homosexual person”
You stated in a few of your posts that HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN. Maybe you don’t find that offensive, but as a gay guy, I find it EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE.
So, want me to show you some respect? Respect other people first!
two great halves of humanity?
how bout recognizing us as one humanity but I shouldn’t come to expect that from the conservativism against gay marriage… only their dissmissivness
It is your opinion that “god” determines what a sin is. That’s all it is: an opinion.
Opinions are like butts. Everybody has one, and most of them stink.
Ok, I did a search on that adoption story. It seems the Catholic Social Services of MA CHOSE not to provide adoption services anymore, because they don’t like the law. No one forced them to stop. They made the choice. Why would they want to deny children loving parents? Because of some stupid beliefs? They obviously don’t care very much about the children. They’d prefer that they have no parents, rather than having gay parents. They are bigots. But that was not a gay marriage law…
Right. The people and the laws of this nation can’t be concerned with what your god, or anyone else’s god thinks. We can’t make laws based on religious beliefs.
Even Miley Cyrus, a Christian, supports same-sex marriage. 16, and she’s more open-minded and more intelligent than so many of her elders. (Now if she would just stop singing…)
Throughout most of the 19th century, the minimum age of consent for sexual intercourse in most American states was 10 years. In Delaware it was only 7 years.
As late as 1930, 12 states allowed boys as young as 14 and girls as young as 12 to marry .
These examples, and there are many more, clearly document that marriage has not been an unchanging institution with unchanging definitions of who can marry and under what circumstances. Those who claim otherwise distort the historical record.
Until 1662, there was no penalty for interracial marriages in any of the British colonies in North America. In 1662, Virginia doubled the fine for fornication between interracial couples. In 1664, Maryland became the first colony to ban interracial marriages. By 1750, all southern colonies, plus Massachusetts and Pennsylvania outlawed interracial marriages.
Since when do they teach marriage in kindergarten? (or any grade, for that matter?) How was the law used to stop adoptions at Catholic Social Services?
What is this “bigger agenda” you speak of?
It has changed many, many times.
From the 5th to the 14th centuries, the Roman Catholic Church conducted special ceremonies to bless same-sex unions which were almost identical for those to bless heterosexual unions.
In the 16th century, servants and day laborers were not allowed to marry in Bavaria and Austria unless they had the permission of local political authorities.
Marriage was strictly a civil and not an ecclesiastical ceremony for the Puritans in Massachusetts Bay until 1686
Maybe you let your god do your thinking for you. I do my thinking for myself, and I say it is not a sin. Right, I don’t have to care what your god thinks, and neither does anyone else. So let’s not pass laws in an attempt to promote bigotry.
So you think for yourself – that makes it your opinion. God determines what sin is – no one else. You don’t have to care what God says – that’s up to you. Laws are determined by people. Laws legalize things that God considers wrong – divorce for instance. When Conneticut legalized SS marriage that only changed how the law views it – not how God views it.
how has the definition changed? Ceremonies have changed, but not the definition. It has always been a relationship between male and female.
if were just that simple – it wouldn’t be a problem. But one simple law has an unpredictable domino effect. The problem is what special interest groups jump in and do once SS marriage is legalized. Were parents in MA notified that legalizing SS marriage would allow it to be taught to their 5 year olds, or that the law would be used to stop adoptions at Catholic Social Services? No – they weren’t. The community behind passing these laws makes it sound so simple – but there’s a bigger agenda here
iowa didn’t even want gay marriage
seriously, before you ppl respond to my comments, can you please look at the root of the argument. This has nothing to do with what i was saying. My goodness, i am getting tired of receiving irrelevant responses.
LOL hogan, haven’t laughed so much since I saw the pic of the homosexual peres hilton in one of these threads in a pink piggy costume….lol/hahaha.
Such funny homosexuals you gays are/ lol. Tooooo funny here.
“Furthermore, sex with animals can never be consentual since an animal can’t give consent.” Yes, but in my example, I’m saying you homosexuals might strive to get animal/homsexual legislation passed. Never know……………